Dreamcast GDI Compatibility List

[Zimada]

Guys, guest what?
Two weeks a go i starting read all your posts from Dragoncity, about loading speed issues of presets, about covers for folders with games, and other posts… and try "REZ" that marked as "not working at all"… And found some VERY WEIRD thing.

REZ is actual WORK on my Dreamcast from HDD!

But how, you ask me? "Simple!" )))
You need start (with no luck of course) optimized GDI image of "REZ (EU)" TREE times after you turn on power of your HDD, with strange settings in "preset" without save this settings as preset.
And in fourth time when you start the REZ with all this settings it START without any problems!

REZ (EU) - WORK! (but with weird sequences of steps!)
1st step - Start optimized GDI image of disk with this settings:
Use DMA - marked
Emulate async read - unmarked the "true" box (it's very imported!)
Fast boot - marked
Load memory - 0x8C004000
Emulate CDDA - unmarked
Save as preset - unmarked
2nd step - Repeat "1st step" 3 times! (when console is stuck just turn off your console and then turn it on again. Not turn off HDD!)
3th step - Repeat "1st step" in fourth time and VOILA! IT WORK!!!
WITH SOUND AND MUSIC, AND ALL THIS CRAZY COLORFUL VECTOR SHIT! ))))

Somebody may answer "WHY?!"

My setup (if it's important):
PAL Dreamcast with region mode and piggybacking EPROM chip.
Region set as JP (JP, NTSC, lang - JP)
BIOS - boot_loader_unlock_G1_IGR_dbs.bios
IDE MOD with HDD (Seagate Barracuda 7200 MODEL: ST3200822A)
RGB SCART CABLE (hand made)
Dreamshell 4.0 RC4 from first release (without "GD-Play" and "Cover for folder in PNG")

And little list of other working games:
Death Crimson OX (US) - WORK! (With gamepads and InterAct StarFire LightBlaster Light guns)
Use DMA - marked
Emulate async read - marked
Emulate CDDA - marked
Fast boot - unmarked
Boot mode - Direct
Loader memory - 0x8C000100

SEGA Smash Pack Vol. 1 (US) - WORK! (all games besides "Virtua Cop 2". It's WinCE Game)
Use DMA - unmarked
Emulate async read - marked as "none"
Emulate CDDA - unmarked
Fast boot - marked
Boot mode - Direct
Loader memory - 0x8C000100

Twinkle Star Sprites (JP)
Use DMA - marked
Emulate async read - 8
Emulate CDDA - unmarked
Fast boot - marked
Boot mode - Direct
Loader memory - 0x8C004000

[dragoncity]

REZ works in my Dreamcast JAP in GDI OPT (0x8c004000).

But I tested ALL memories in my Dreamcast PAL..doesn't work..it's crazy no??

[gorgyrip]

working:
Frogger 2 - Swampy's Revenge v1.001 (2000)(Hasbro)(NTSC)(US)[!].gdi
Ms. Pac-Man - Maze Madness v1.000 (2000)(Namco)(NTSC)(US)[!].gdi (WITHOUt CDDA)
Dynamite Cop! v1.005 (1999)(Sega)(NTSC)(US)[!].gdi (FROM 8cfd0000)

[dragoncity]

Dynamite Cop lag in Gdi,but not in GDI optimized :-)

8cfe000 without DMA for me :-)

[dragoncity]

TEST again !!

For test I use GDI AND GDI Optimized...
And I play during 5 minutes or 1 level...
..so very long test!
And after I check memories if doesn't work.


So I tested many games today..

I added in my list :
Dreamshell 4 RC4 Compatibilités PAL "DragonCity"

WORKS
Death Crimson OX
Frogger 2 - Swampys Revenge
GigaWing 2
Ms. Pac-Man - Maze Madness
Bomberman Online
D2
King of Fighters 2002
4x4 Evolution
King of Fighters 2001
Fatal Fury - Mark of the Wolves
The Ring - Terrors Realm
Demolition Racer - No Exit
King of Fighters - Dream Match 1999

NO WORKS
King of Fighters 99 Evolution : Black Screen
Ooga Booga : Black Screen


EDIT:
Last Blade 2 - Heart of the Samurai : Black Screen
Works IN JAP,GDI OPT ,DMA 8 and with IP.BIN CUT...


What is IP.BIN CUT..???

[megavolt85]

Ooga Booga have protection
IP.BIN CUT - ip.bin have two bootstrap , few games have hardware initialization in secon bootstrap, ip.bin cut is run game from secon bootstrap

[Gillbert]

(02.12.2016 20:22)dragoncity писал(а):  With this Adaptator :

I had one of that adapter. I damaged it and threw it away, it's not good for using with Dreamcast.

[shwoaps]

@dragoncity, i saw in your compatibility list that "Soul Calibur" is working. Is it really?

I have pal DC, no bios mod, i tried many versions of soul calibur: usa, pal gdi, couple of different cdi versions. Tried ds4rc4 and ds4rc3. All with different results. Some don't boot, some boot and freeze, some start the fight, but *after some time it crashes*, and crashes every time.

Does "Soul Calibur" really work for you, can you play it for at least 20 minutes?

For example "Suzuki ALSTARE Extreme Racing" usa version appeared to be working for me, but after about 15 min of playing it *crashed every time*. Pal version is working perfectly thought, i tested it thoroughly.

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About MDK2, even if we forget about music glitch, where one sound channel completely disappears after few minutes, the actual game play is laggy to that point, that i would not play it. Original game is running perfectly smooth!.
You can see it clearly by standing near some wall, looking diagonally up and turning around. You will notice screen skipping.

[dragoncity]

Yes it works,and I played more than 20minutes...

I test again this afternoon ;-)

Don't use the last build,doesn't work with MANY GAMES.

Use dreamshell Rc4.

Mdk2 yes works with cdda but sound glitch after a moment i know.

[dragoncity]

I tested...with my SATA black screen..and CF card works perfect in RC4 !!!! WTF ^^ !!!

Edit ! I don't understand but now it works in SATA !!!

Ok I will play 20 minutes for test

Edit 2 : in SATA glitch during selection and freeze..in CF no problem...I test again !!

[megavolt85]

(16.12.2016 15:19)dragoncity писал(а):  Don't use the last build,doesn't work with MANY GAMES.

Use dreamshell Rc4.

may be use last build with ide.bin from Rc4 ?

[dragoncity]

If I use directly the last build..many games doesn't work Megavolt.

I must take Dreamshell Rc4 and update manually Iso_Loader.

[megavolt85]

https://yadi.sk/d/pOMXeWwa332Eue

[dragoncity]

Have you an explication for that :

Soul Calibur works in CF with default memory.

Soul Calibur doesn't work in SATA with default memory,glitch during selection,and after block or reboot.

For the test I use the SAME folder DS directly on the support (no SD card)

[shwoaps]

@dragoncity >>Mdk2 yes works with cdda but sound glitch after a moment i know.

What i wanted to, that you added some additional info to your compatibility list.
That is, at current state MDK2 lags compared to original(not music, but gameplay, it isn't severe lag like on Dinosaur for example but it really breaks this awesome game for me ).

There are many games that run perfectly on DS. Some have even better experience than original(at least selfboots) because of loading times.
But, for example D2 game, even, if it's running perfectly, you can't finish it, because you can't change disks. And it isn't that kind of disk changing, where you save, reboot with another disk and continue. In this particular game you continue immediately after changing disk, and because DS does not support you can't finish it.
Some say just downland saves and continue from nearest point, but that way you loose immersion and many cut scenes, and there a a lot of them.

Every time when i encounter lags on DS i'm wondering is it DS or is it game?

To sum up:
Mdk2: wav sound glitch, small game play lag when original is perfectly smooth.
D2: can't change disk, cant' finish game. If use others saves, miss a lot of in game cut scenes which are important for game.
Ewil twin: there is lang in DS, but same lag is present in original game.

I really am looking for this kind of information.

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Don't get me wrong, you are doing awesome work, thank you.

[megavolt85]

shwoaps ты не тестил сборку что я выложил?

[dragoncity]

What i wanted to, that you added some additional info to your compatibility list.

There is..but in French ^^ just translate my friend

It's not complicated,for MDK2 there is :

"Bug très léger de son audio"

So if you translate in engish :
https://translate.google.fr/?hl=fr#fr/en...on%20audio

"Very light audio bug"



The gameplay doesn't lag for me,just the sound with CDDA.

For me it's very important also to have the most information it's possible,and if my compatibility list normaly you have.

After,I tested all the games 5-10 minutes,but sometimes more like Evil twin I finished

So if you see a bad information,tell me no problem

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For the moment I tested Soul Calibur...

So ITS VERY CRAZY !!!!!!!!!

Because with CF card,works perfectly,and with SATA I have bug and freeze !!!! With the same config...

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I tested with your DS Megavolt SAME problem...

So Soul Calibur works with CF card,but not in SATA...

[aldair]

(16.12.2016 19:04)dragoncity писал(а):  What i wanted to, that you added some additional info to your compatibility list.

There is..but in French ^^ just translate my friend

It's not complicated,for MDK2 there is :

"Bug très léger de son audio"

So if you translate in engish :
https://translate.google.fr/?hl=fr#fr/en...on%20audio

"Very light audio bug"



The gameplay doesn't lag for me,just the sound with CDDA.

For me it's very important also to have the most information it's possible,and if my compatibility list normaly you have.

After,I tested all the games 5-10 minutes,but sometimes more like Evil twin I finished

So if you see a bad information,tell me no problem

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For the moment I tested Soul Calibur...

So ITS VERY CRAZY !!!!!!!!!

Because with CF card,works perfectly,and with SATA I have bug and freeze !!!! With the same config...

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I tested with your DS Megavolt SAME problem...

So Soul Calibur works with CF card,but not in SATA...

Soul Calibur works on SATA.


IDE Flash


Video: Soul Calibur works on SATA.https://www.facebook.com/Dreamshell2016/...635030028/

[dragoncity]

Ssd for works??

Gdi ?

Pal console?

[aldair]

(16.12.2016 19:29)dragoncity писал(а):  Ssd for works??

Gdi ?

Pal console?

https://www.facebook.com/Dreamshell2016/...635030028/