ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5

[megavolt85]

(15.01.2024 00:36)JohnOliv3ira писал(а):  Did some tests with WSB2K2 and the current build T46 but the game back to froze just as the 0.7. On reply #196 I posted my tests using that past build and the game worked perfectly, off line and online.

you use IDE HDD?

[SWAT]

(15.01.2024 00:36)JohnOliv3ira писал(а):  Hello, Swat!
Did some tests with WSB2K2 and the current build T46 but the game back to froze just as the 0.7. On reply #196 I posted my tests using that past build and the game worked perfectly, off line and online. Is it possible to download older versions?

This is a test versions, I'm not saving it and going to release.
What a device you are used?

[JohnOliv3ira]

(15.01.2024 02:11)megavolt85 писал(а):  

(15.01.2024 00:36)JohnOliv3ira писал(а):  Did some tests with WSB2K2 and the current build T46 but the game back to froze just as the 0.7. On reply #196 I posted my tests using that past build and the game worked perfectly, off line and online.

you use IDE HDD?

Yes, 2.5' IDE

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(15.01.2024 11:11)SWAT писал(а):  

(15.01.2024 00:36)JohnOliv3ira писал(а):  Hello, Swat!
Did some tests with WSB2K2 and the current build T46 but the game back to froze just as the 0.7. On reply #196 I posted my tests using that past build and the game worked perfectly, off line and online. Is it possible to download older versions?

This is a test versions, I'm not saving it and going to release.
What a device you are used?

Got it.
Im using IDE 2.5, using ISO Loader 0.8 to run games that does not work well on 0.7.0 such as NCAA, WSB2K2 and Planet Ring

[pcwzrd13]

I can confirm Johne's issues with World Series Baseball 2K2. It worked great for me on build 32 last time I played it. On the latest build it consistently freezes in the 4th inning (with loader memory 0x8c000100 and 0x8c004000). Not sure what change broke it.

[SWAT]

(18.01.2024 07:25)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  I can confirm Johne's issues with World Series Baseball 2K2. It worked great for me on build 32 last time I played it. On the latest build it consistently freezes in the 4th inning (with loader memory 0x8c000100 and 0x8c004000). Not sure what change broke it.

I'll check it, thanks for report.

[SWAT]

NCAA 2K2 and WSB 2K2 works fine for me from 0x8c001100.
For all 2K2 games use these address because it's uses GINSU binary loader.

[chth96]

hello.
It would be absurd question but Is it possible to run any game which is only possible to run in ISO loader 0.7.x beta 1 if I enable low level and set loader memory to 0x8ce00000 in ISO loader 0.8.x beta?

[Elgor4uk]

(19.01.2024 12:34)SWAT писал(а):  NCAA 2K2 and WSB 2K2 works fine for me from 0x8c001100.
For all 2K2 games use these address because it's uses GINSU binary loader.

0x8c001100 загрузчик для игр 2K2 подходит только для IDE интерфейса или для SATA тоже? У меня на IDE HDD 2.5 все игры 2K2 хорошо работают с 0x8ce00000
+ loader v0.7

[pcwzrd13]

(19.01.2024 12:34)SWAT писал(а):  WSB 2K2 works fine for me from 0x8c001100.
For all 2K2 games use these address because it's uses GINSU binary loader.

Yeah, 0x8c001100 was the second one I tried after 0x8c000100. I forgot it won't boot on 0x8c004000. But it froze in the 4th inning on both 100 and 1100. This was while playing online so that might make a difference. I haven't tried offline.

Edit: Just tested three games offline and I can't get it to freeze. It seems the freeze only happens when playing online which will make testing more difficult.

[SWAT]

(19.01.2024 12:52)chth96 писал(а):  hello.
It would be absurd question but Is it possible to run any game which is only possible to run in ISO loader 0.7.x beta 1 if I enable low level and set loader memory to 0x8ce00000 in ISO loader 0.8.x beta?

Yes, low-level mode is the same as v0.7.x. Selecting this memory is not required, just enable low-level mode and that all.
But last builds of v0.8 can run most games without low-level, but for some games like Visual Concept need use defragmented images as for low-level.

(19.01.2024 16:06)Elgor4uk писал(а):  

(19.01.2024 12:34)SWAT писал(а):  NCAA 2K2 and WSB 2K2 works fine for me from 0x8c001100.
For all 2K2 games use these address because it's uses GINSU binary loader.

0x8c001100 загрузчик для игр 2K2 подходит только для IDE интерфейса или для SATA тоже? У меня на IDE HDD 2.5 все игры 2K2 хорошо работают с 0x8ce00000
+ loader v0.7

Сейчас совместимость в этом плане должна быть одинаковой, что у low-level (или 0.7) что у последних сборок 0.8

(19.01.2024 16:48)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  Edit: Just tested three games offline and I can't get it to freeze. It seems the freeze only happens when playing online which will make testing more difficult.

Hmm. But no CDDA here, have no idea yet...

[pcwzrd13]

(19.01.2024 20:41)SWAT писал(а):  

(19.01.2024 16:48)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  Edit: Just tested three games offline and I can't get it to freeze. It seems the freeze only happens when playing online which will make testing more difficult.

Hmm. But no CDDA here, have no idea yet...

Like I said, last time I played the game was on build 32 and it worked great. Most of the changes since then have been CDDA-related but there have been some general loader updates as well. Might be hard to narrow down the exact cause.

[chth96]

(19.01.2024 20:41)SWAT писал(а):  Yes, low-level mode is the same as v0.7.x. Selecting this memory is not required, just enable low-level mode and that all.
But last builds of v0.8 can run most games without low-level, but for some games like Visual Concept need use defragmented images as for low-level.

I confirm that tamakyuu and princess holiday(DMA true,0x8c004000,default,heap behind the loader) ,
Kita He White Illumination(DMA true,0x8ce00000,default,low level,heap behind the loader),
Princess maker collection(DMA true,0x8c004000,default,low level,heap behind the laoder,WINCE)
which is only possible to run in Iso loader v7.0.x beta1, runs very well in last build of v0.8.

And Pia Carrot3 and Kaen Seibo, EVE Zero(DMA 8 or 16,0x8cfe8000,default,heap behind the loader),
which sometimes freezed in Iso loader v0.6.11 and not able to run in Iso loader v0.7.x, runs very well without any freezing in last bulid of v0.8.

BUT, Sakura wars 3,4 and Super Street Fighter II X for Matching Service,which is only possible to run in Iso loader v0.7.x beta1 ,cannot run in last build of v0.8.
I even tried enabling low level mode and other settings But It is totally impossible to run these two game(SW3,4,SF2) in last bulid of v0.8.

And First kiss story2 freezed in the title screen(DMA true,0x8cb00000,default,behind the loader) in last bulid of v0.8
I think that other than these games(sakura wars3,4 and First kiss story2),It would be possible to run almost all of japanese visual novel game in last build of v0.8

For your information,I have moded my dreamcast (directly soldered IDE cable to GD-ROM Board) and connect it to SP0822N samsung IDE hdd and have tested all of games from this hdd.

[Elgor4uk]

(20.01.2024 06:06)chth96 писал(а):  And First kiss story2 freezed in the title screen(DMA true,0x8cb00000,default,behind the loader) in last bulid of v0.8
I think that other than these games(sakura wars3,4 and First kiss story2),It would be possible to run almost all of japanese visual novel game in last build of v0.8

Please share links download Japanese Visual Novels for playing via DS format GDI OPT:
1. Fushigi no Dungeon - Fuurai no Shiren Gaiden - Onna Kenshi Asuka Kenzan!
2. Happy Lesson - First Lesson
3. Real Sound - Kaze no Regret
4. Sekai Fushigi Hakken! Troy
5. Tokyo Bus Guide - Bijin Bus Guide Tenjou Disc
6. Yume Baken '99 - Internet
On the Internet I found these games only in CUE format, which do not work in DreamShell.

[chth96]

(24.01.2024 08:22)Elgor4uk писал(а):  Please share links download Japanese Visual Novels for playing via DS format GDI OPT:
1. Fushigi no Dungeon - Fuurai no Shiren Gaiden - Onna Kenshi Asuka Kenzan!
2. Happy Lesson - First Lesson
3. Real Sound - Kaze no Regret
4. Sekai Fushigi Hakken! Troy
5. Tokyo Bus Guide - Bijin Bus Guide Tenjou Disc
6. Yume Baken '99 - Internet
On the Internet I found these games only in CUE format, which do not work in DreamShell.

You can make use of GDIDROP in order to convert CUE format to BIN,RAW/GDI
https://github.com/feyris-tan/gdidrop/releases/tag/1

And You can easily find download link for japanese dreamcast game when You click hyperlink of ">> Compatibility List Dreamshell / RetroDream By DragonCity <<" which you maybe have always seen in the dragoncity's post.

[fafadou]

If it's possible to convert CUE to gdi, is there something to convert .cdi to cue ?


Если есть возможность конвертировать CUE в gdi, есть ли что-то для конвертации .cdi в cue?

[megavolt85]

even if you convert CDI to CUE and then CUE to GDI, it won't work
when converting GD to CD, the executable file is modified and when converting back, you need to undo all changes in 1ST_READ.BIN

[fafadou]

Oh ok.

I thought there were only a binhack at 45000lba and maybe the hex HDD patch to do.

[chth96]

I confirmed that below game works very good in last build of v0.8

Super Robot Taisen Alpha(DMA true,0x8c004000,default,heap behind the loader)

Tenohira wo, Taiyou ni v1.000 (DMA 8,0x8c004000,default,heap behind the loader) A years ago when I played it in Iso loader v0.6.11 or v0.6.10, It eventually freezed no matter how long I played it,But Now It never freezed at all,So I finally saw first ending of game.

Tantei Shinshi Dash! v2.000 (DMA true,0x8c004000,default,heap behind the loader)

Comic Party v2.001 (DMA true,0x8cfe8000,IP.BIN,heap behind the loader)

D Vine [Luv] v1.002 (DMA true,0x8cfe8000,default,heap behind the loader)

21 - Two One v1.003 (DMA true,0x8c004000,default,heap behind the loader) It can be run in last build of v0.8 but It sometimes display a string of white box instead of japanese letter.

But When I run it in Iso loader v0.6.10(DMA 16 or 8,0x8c004000,default,heap behind the loader) this trivial bug can be fixed, But When I run it in last build of v0.8 and below preset It cannot be run(displaying black screen...)
(DMA 8 or 16,0x8c004000,default,heap behind the loader)

EDIT:
I just have realized that When I tried to run Sakura wars3 in v0.8 Iso loader of below dropbox link, which was created on last year Dec.17, It is possible to run Sakura wars3 with below preset.
(DMA true,0x8ca00000,0x8ca70000,0x8ca80000,0x8cc10000,0x8cc20000,0x8cc30000,or other address between 0x8ca00000 and 0x8cc00000,default,heap behind the loader)

Althouth,It has serious bug such as freezing in particular event in gameplay or freezing in battle mode or suddenly skip over ongoing episode,
It is truely possible to run Sakura wars3 in Dec.17 build of v0.8.

But It is totally impossible to run Sakura wars3 in last build of v0.8..It seems that some updated code prevents it from running in last build of v0.8..


https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/urn2zdd1w...8j2ku&dl=0

[SWAT]

Public testing has been completed. Thank you all very much for your help!
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