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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(02.05.2023 00:03)fafadou писал(а):  I'm not at home and I didn't have time to try this new fabulous update. Unfortunately I'll come back in one week.

Just trying quickly again sega rally 2 PAL but still back screen, but the config is sync 0x8cf80000 for RC4, the issue is not the loader.



I have a problem with my compact Flash adapter : the pins have not the same size as my ide cable connector :
https://ibb.co/k0ykhJw


what could you suggest to me please ? Is there any adapter ?

That's correct, you bought 44-pin CF reader.
44-pin P-ATA uses the same pinout as regular 40-pin IDE.
Only the difference is that the pins are a little smaller.
Also you need to provide 5V to pin 41 and 42 (this will power your CF card) and connect extra ground to pin 43.
Pins 1 to 40 are the same.
See the schematic: https://www.unitechelectronics.com/ide44pinout.gif

The best thing you should do is desolder the pin-header then just solder all 40 wires straight onto the pads.
Also solder extra 5V wires to pad 41 and 42 and extra ground to pad 43.

Because 44-pin P-ATA is smaller, you can easily fit the reader inside the case Smile (on top of modem housing)

Or if you do not want to solder.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHcXDID
(Make sure you insert the cable the correct way)
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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(29.04.2023 21:41)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  Not sure if it's just a coincidence or if something changed with the new loader version but Speed Devils is now consistently breaking after races end. The music will crash and the game will either freeze or go back to the menu and not let you back into a race. I'm guessing it's probably the same as before but I just got lucky being able to get back into another race when I tested before. Really want this game to work! It's one of my favorites. Smile

Yes it's good game, I'll try do something.

(30.04.2023 14:13)joxley192 писал(а):  Hey swat just wanna say thank you for dreamshell I have been using it for about the last ten years and am loving the new vmu emulation which is working great. I have been using since the 15th April I got the main games that I play working which include sonic adventure 1 and two , crazy taxi both games is there a new data sheet to help people to set up the right settings and make it more easier cause some of the settings are different to the other version of dreamshell and please can u make a screenshot view app and a video player for dreamshell

Glad you like it. The old settings are still relevant, just in some cases they need to be supplemented with new parameters.
Video playback already present in DS, try double click on video file in filemanager, but i'm not test it a long time, maybe something broken.
About screenshots viewing is a good point. But I'm not sure if I can find the time for this, maybe someone else would like to make such an application.

(02.05.2023 00:03)fafadou писал(а):  I have a problem with my compact Flash adapter : the pins have not the same size as my ide cable connector :
https://ibb.co/k0ykhJw

what could you suggest to me please ? Is there any adapter ?

There is difference 2.5" IDE and 3.5".
CF Adapters for 2.5" with additional pins for the power. I use it because it's smaller and no extra wires needed for the power.

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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(02.05.2023 01:39)MastaG писал(а):  Or if you do not want to solder.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHcXDID
(Make sure you insert the cable the correct way)

I'll choose this way because I have already a molex câble on my dreamcast power supply. And i'll can switch with my sata to ide adapter Smile

Have you check with my picture, this is the good male/female option for me ?

Thank you very much for your help.

(02.05.2023 07:11)SWAT писал(а):  There is difference 2.5" IDE and 3.5".
CF Adapters for 2.5" with additional pins for the power. I use it because it's smaller and no extra wires needed for the power.

Thank you, i forgot this story of size.
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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(02.05.2023 08:47)fafadou писал(а):  
(02.05.2023 01:39)MastaG писал(а):  Or if you do not want to solder.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHcXDID
(Make sure you insert the cable the correct way)

I'll choose this way because I have already a molex câble on my dreamcast power supply. And i'll can switch with my sata to ide adapter Smile

Have you check with my picture, this is the good male/female option for me ?

Thank you very much for your help.

(02.05.2023 07:11)SWAT писал(а):  There is difference 2.5" IDE and 3.5".
CF Adapters for 2.5" with additional pins for the power. I use it because it's smaller and no extra wires needed for the power.

Thank you, i forgot this story of size.

Yes 2.5 inch uses smaller 44-pin IDE which include 5V power on pins 41 and 42.
The adapter from aliexpress should work Smile
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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
Anyone tried Rent-A-Hero on DreamShell? Trying out the new English translation and there are issues. You can't go up the stairs in the house and if you load a save file where you're already upstairs, it will put you downstairs with the camera upstairs. lol Unfortunately this makes it unplayable. This issue occurs with any version of the GDI (including the original non-translated both optimized and unoptimized). I tested it on all versions of the DreamShell loader 0.6-0.8 with various loader memory settings and DMA on and off. No luck though. :-( Maybe this is something you can look into fixing in 0.8, SWAT?

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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(03.05.2023 19:42)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  Anyone tried Rent-A-Hero on DreamShell? Trying out the new English translation and there are issues. You can't go up the stairs in the house and if you load a save file where you're already upstairs, it will put you downstairs with the camera upstairs. lol Unfortunately this makes it unplayable. This issue occurs with any version of the GDI (including the original non-translated both optimized and unoptimized). I tested it on all versions of the DreamShell loader 0.6-0.8 with various loader memory settings and DMA on and off. No luck though. :-( Maybe this is something you can look into fixing in 0.8, SWAT?

It is difficult to correct such nuances, it takes a lot of time, and there is little result in the output. Such things can be done after the main work of emulation.

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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(03.05.2023 19:42)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  Anyone tried Rent-A-Hero on DreamShell? Trying out the new English translation and there are issues. You can't go up the stairs in the house and if you load a save file where you're already upstairs, it will put you downstairs with the camera upstairs. lol Unfortunately this makes it unplayable. This issue occurs with any version of the GDI (including the original non-translated both optimized and unoptimized). I tested it on all versions of the DreamShell loader 0.6-0.8 with various loader memory settings and DMA on and off. No luck though. :-( Maybe this is something you can look into fixing in 0.8, SWAT?

Hey pcwzrd13. There is a setting that will allow you to get up stairs. I was part of that translation really, really early on. I don't think I'll be able to find my post about it as it will go too far back in the discord but I will have the settings saved on my SD card at home. I have the game running from IDE and ISO Loader running from SD card.
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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
@Zychion Interesting. Tried a bunch of settings but nothing worked. Let me know as soon as you figure out what settings you used. Smile

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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(05.05.2023 05:53)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  @Zychion Interesting. Tried a bunch of settings but nothing worked. Let me know as soon as you figure out what settings you used. Smile

I remember it not working initially either. I'm still at work but I think it may have been the same settings that Rez needed.
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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(05.05.2023 09:39)Zychion писал(а):  
(05.05.2023 05:53)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  @Zychion Interesting. Tried a bunch of settings but nothing worked. Let me know as soon as you figure out what settings you used. Smile

I remember it not working initially either. I'm still at work but I think it may have been the same settings that Rez needed.

The only preset I find for REZ is with 0.7.x loader so maybe with the low level.
for me the preset for RAH is probably an odd one like under defeat or grandia 2.

There is also some sakura taisen 3 issue for boot maybe it's the same one.

I'm finally come back to home, I'll give some tests for the last release of 0.8.x. unfortunately my dreamcast has some reboot problem again. I have to focus on this first.

@Mastag : thank you for your help, my adapter is ordered Smile
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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(05.05.2023 09:39)Zychion писал(а):  
(05.05.2023 05:53)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  @Zychion Interesting. Tried a bunch of settings but nothing worked. Let me know as soon as you figure out what settings you used. Smile

I remember it not working initially either. I'm still at work but I think it may have been the same settings that Rez needed.

Got it working! You need to use "IP.BIN" as the boot method. Smile

@SWAT Could you explain what booting using "IP.BIN" does differently? I'm curious why it would cause bugs like this if it isn't used.

Edit: Holy crap! IP.BIN fixed Aerowings 2 as well! I've never been able to get into a game with DreamShell. It always just gave me a black screen before missions. Need to try this with other games that have weird issues. Smile

Edit 2: Holy crap #2! Booting with IP.BIN fixes the bugs in Phantasy Star Online!!! I can now heal and revive other players online! This is amazing! How did it take years to figure this out?! IP.BIN is amazing! :-P

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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
RAH Works fine for me too, with the preset you share thank you Smile
We should try IP.BIN preset more often, new good surprises are coming.
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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
HAhahahah.
@pcwzrd13 I was just coming on to tell you this. Sorry about my delay but I'm glad you found it.
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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(06.05.2023 23:51)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  Got it working! You need to use "IP.BIN" as the boot method. Smile

@SWAT Could you explain what booting using "IP.BIN" does differently? I'm curious why it would cause bugs like this if it isn't used.

Edit: Holy crap! IP.BIN fixed Aerowings 2 as well! I've never been able to get into a game with DreamShell. It always just gave me a black screen before missions. Need to try this with other games that have weird issues. Smile

Edit 2: Holy crap #2! Booting with IP.BIN fixes the bugs in Phantasy Star Online!!! I can now heal and revive other players online! This is amazing! How did it take years to figure this out?! IP.BIN is amazing! :-P

In general, all binaries launched from the disc are launched through IP.BIN, it has some initial settings for hardware and some software parameters.
In most cases this is not necessary, but some games require special hardware/software settings that set in IP.BIN.
You found exactly those games Smile And this is not the whole list, I'm sure. Therefore, this method exists in the loader.

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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
New settings for Sonic Adventure 2:

Loader memory 8cfe0000, others by default (DMA works now).

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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
Now all the other problem is that every time in the game to forced shutdown, so to hard disk should have damage, fly line on the main board to reset doesn't work again, not all games effectively handle key combination, type of simulator game doesn't work. Handle key combination reset and then choose other games can not normal to enter, as long as the shutdown to open it. The other is cheating in function and the function is perfect.
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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(12.05.2023 17:48)segatxdc писал(а):  Now all the other problem is that every time in the game to forced shutdown, so to hard disk should have damage, fly line on the main board to reset doesn't work again, not all games effectively handle key combination, type of simulator game doesn't work. Handle key combination reset and then choose other games can not normal to enter, as long as the shutdown to open it. The other is cheating in function and the function is perfect.

I'm sorry, but I didn't understand much. Can you rephrase?

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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
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(29.04.2023 21:41)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  Not sure if it's just a coincidence or if something changed with the new loader version but Speed Devils is now consistently breaking after races end. The music will crash and the game will either freeze or go back to the menu and not let you back into a race. I'm guessing it's probably the same as before but I just got lucky being able to get back into another race when I tested before. Really want this game to work! It's one of my favorites. Smile

Yes it's good game, I'll try do something.

Very strange, but I have no such issues. I played a few races in a row and everything was fine except that the loading screen was just white, everything else worked very well.
It seems to me that games work differently for us because of the difference in CF card. I use pretty fast variant with default settings except CDDA DMA_TMU1.

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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
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(02.05.2023 07:11)SWAT писал(а):  
(29.04.2023 21:41)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  Not sure if it's just a coincidence or if something changed with the new loader version but Speed Devils is now consistently breaking after races end. The music will crash and the game will either freeze or go back to the menu and not let you back into a race. I'm guessing it's probably the same as before but I just got lucky being able to get back into another race when I tested before. Really want this game to work! It's one of my favorites. Smile

Yes it's good game, I'll try do something.

Very strange, but I have no such issues. I played a few races in a row and everything was fine except that the loading screen was just white, everything else worked very well.
It seems to me that games work differently for us because of the difference in CF card. I use pretty fast variant with default settings except CDDA DMA_TMU1.

Hmmm, interesting. I'll have to try and test a few things. I do have other CF cards and a regular HDD.

Any chance you could make some 0.8 loaders with hard-coded presets? Just the most common ones with settings from my list would be nice. I'd like to be able to use them with RetroDream but I'm not sure when cpasjuste will get around to updating it with settings for 0.8.

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RE: ISO Loader 0.8.x Beta + preview of DreamShell v4.0 RC 5
(14.05.2023 19:57)pcwzrd13 писал(а):  Any chance you could make some 0.8 loaders with hard-coded presets? Just the most common ones with settings from my list would be nice. I'd like to be able to use them with RetroDream but I'm not sure when cpasjuste will get around to updating it with settings for 0.8.

Maybe after release.

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